Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

03/08/2021 01:30 PM House JUDICIARY

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01:33:41 PM Start
01:34:18 PM Confirmation Hearing(s): Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar
01:57:57 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar -
Rick Castillo & William Granger
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 105 DETENTION OF MINORS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 8, 2021                                                                                          
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Matt Claman, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Liz Snyder                                                                                                       
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
Representative Christopher Kurka                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Governors of The Alaska Bar                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Rick Castillo, Anchorage                                                                                                   
     William Granger, Anchorage                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RICK CASTILLO, Appointee                                                                                                        
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                   
Governors of the Alaska Bar.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM GRANGER, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of                                                             
Governors of the Alaska Bar.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA OBERMEYER                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during confirmation hearings.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MATT  CLAMAN called the House  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order at 1:33 p.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Drummond,  Kreiss-Tompkins, Eastman,  Snyder (via                                                               
teleconference), and  Claman were present  at the call  to order.                                                               
Representatives Kurka  and Vance  arrived as  the meeting  was in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S): Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar                                                                  
 CONFIRMATION HEARING(S): Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar                                                              
                                                                                                                              
1:34:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
Confirmation Hearing  for the  Board of  Governors of  the Alaska                                                               
Bar.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:34:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:34:56 PM}                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RICK CASTILLO, Appointee,  Board of Governors of  the Alaska Bar,                                                               
stated that he  was born in New Jersey, where  he spent his youth                                                               
and  shared his  experience of  growing  up, raised  by a  single                                                               
mother, in  Florida.   He shared  that he  joined the  army after                                                               
graduating  high school,  which  brought him  to  Anchorage.   He                                                               
recalled his education and work  experience after enlistment that                                                               
included   earning  his   bachelor's  degree   in  supply   chain                                                               
management  from the  University of  Alaska in  2011; working  in                                                               
transportation,     distribution,     oil    and     gas,     and                                                               
telecommunications; and continued military  service in the Alaska                                                               
National Guard.   He explained  that he had gained  the knowledge                                                               
of leadership, reliability, integrity,  and character.  He shared                                                               
his  experiences in  community service  that included  the Alaska                                                               
Humanities Forum,  Rotary International, and Northern  Lights ABC                                                               
Parent-Teacher   Association  [PTA],   and   his  candidacy   for                                                               
Anchorage Assembly.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CATILLO expressed  his desire to advocate for  Alaska and its                                                               
people and   to represent the  values of the industries  in which                                                               
he has  worked as a  public member of  the Board of  Governors of                                                               
the Alaska Bar Association.  He  shared that his wife is employed                                                               
by  Alaska Communications  Systems,  Inc. and  his daughters  are                                                               
enrolled in Northern Lights ABS in Anchorage.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:38:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked why  Mr.  Castillo  had chosen  to                                                               
apply for the  Board of Governors of the Alaska  Bar, rather than                                                               
any other board or commission.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CASTILLO answered  that  it is  his  understanding that  the                                                               
Alaska  Bar Association  is the  gateway through  which attorneys                                                               
are  permitted to  practice law  in [Alaska]  and the  vetting of                                                               
those attorneys  is important  to eliminate  bad actors  that may                                                               
reduce consumer confidence.  He  stated that, as a public member,                                                               
it is  his desire  to offer  diversity from  the public  and from                                                               
private  sector industries.   He  added that  the development  of                                                               
best practices is  important and should include  the structure of                                                               
educational  and  professional  requirements  which  project  the                                                               
values of the  people of Alaska:  integrity,  honor, respect, and                                                               
liberty.   He  suggested  that that  appropriate institution  and                                                               
promotion of those  values would lead to attorneys  doing what is                                                               
best for  Alaska and  would strengthen the  brand of  the [Alaska                                                               
Bar] Association.  He stated his  goals to influence the board to                                                               
evolve  and   grow  responsibly   and  increase   attorneys'  and                                                               
lawmakers' pride in the association.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked Mr. Castillo  to share his  understanding and                                                               
perspective  on the  continuing legal  education requirements  of                                                               
the Alaska Bar [ Association].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CASTILLO offered  to follow  up  with Representative  Claman                                                               
with an answer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN stated  that "you're  not familiar  with what  they                                                               
are" was an acceptable answer.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  GRANGER, Appointee,  Board  of Governors  of the  Alaska                                                               
Bar, testified  that he is a  lifelong Alaskan and has  served on                                                               
the Board  of Governors  of the Alaska  Bar for  approximately 14                                                               
years,  mainly  in  the  role  of its  treasurer.    He  detailed                                                               
accomplishments during his  tenure as a member  that included the                                                               
purchase of the building in  which the association is housed with                                                               
no increase  to members'  dues, and  the challenges  faced during                                                               
the COVID-19  pandemic.  He  expressed his pride and  pleasure in                                                               
serving on  the board and  furthering its endeavors  to influence                                                               
the attorney  members' work  and to change  the entry  process of                                                               
its  members,  disciplinary  matters,  and  continuing  education                                                               
requirements.  He  expressed his sense of pride  from a personal,                                                               
professional, and  moral standpoint.  He  acknowledged additional                                                               
challenges  would  be   faced  by  the  board   with  the  recent                                                               
retirement  of   the  long-tenured  executive  director   of  the                                                               
association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  remarked that  he has never  heard anyone                                                               
accuse  Alaska of  having the  easiest bar  exam.   He asked  Mr.                                                               
Granger  what he  has  observed in  terms of  the  impact of  the                                                               
current  Bar exam  and passage  rates  on the  available pool  of                                                               
attorneys in Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRANGER  noted that  Alaska's  [candidate  test] scores  and                                                               
requirements to  enter the association have  been relatively high                                                               
when compared to other states and  estimated them to be among the                                                               
top ten percent in the nation.   He explained that an attorney is                                                               
required to  take a test  for consideration of admittance  to the                                                               
Bar  [Association]  with  a  scored   result.    He  stated  that                                                               
candidates may take  an exam in another  jurisdiction and, should                                                               
the candidate  fail to achieve  the "cut" score, he/she  would be                                                               
required to practice law in  another jurisdiction for a period he                                                               
believed to  be five  years prior  to consideration  [to practice                                                               
law] in  Alaska.  He added  that that the passage  of the Uniform                                                               
Bar Code Test  (UBC) had resulted in candidates  being allowed to                                                               
be  considered to  practice  law in  Alaska  under the  five-year                                                               
rule.    He  suggested  that  [a candidate  who  is  capable  of]                                                               
practicing  for five  years without  incident  "works out  pretty                                                               
well."  He  added that COVID-19 has had  "interesting" impacts on                                                               
the testing  and admittance  to the Alaska  Bar Association.   He                                                               
added that  there exist attorneys in  other jurisdictions allowed                                                               
to practice law in those  jurisdictions without having passed the                                                               
Bar exam  and without  having graduated from  law school  in that                                                               
jurisdiction  and  stated  that  those candidates  would  not  be                                                               
allowed to practice law in Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:46:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  reiterated  his question  regarding  the                                                               
pool of applicants.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  stated that the pass  rate [of the Alaska  Bar exam]                                                               
is estimated to be 40 percent.   He stated that there exists such                                                               
a small  pool of  applicants that  a pass or  fail [score]  has a                                                               
dramatic impact  on percentages.   He added his  observation that                                                               
the changes  had not  yet resulted in  an appreciable  change [to                                                               
the applicant  pool].   He added  that the  "cut score"  had been                                                               
reviewed as recently  as within the prior 12 to  24 months by the                                                               
Alaska  Supreme Court,  which ruled  that the  association should                                                               
conduct  a review  of  the  "cut score"  to  ensure  that it  was                                                               
appropriate and  make any  recommended changes.   He  stated that                                                               
the board had no recommendations following its review.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:47:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KURKA recalled Mr.  Granger's length of service on                                                               
the  board and  asked  him  to share  his  opinion regarding  the                                                               
performance  of appointees  made to  the Alaska  Judicial Council                                                               
during his tenure.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRANGER answered  that  it  would be  difficult  for him  to                                                               
monitor  successes  and  failures of  individual  appointees  and                                                               
added that  he had  had opportunities  to review  nominations for                                                               
recommendation to the governor, which  are made at the governor's                                                               
discretion.   He  offered  that there  may  have been  historical                                                               
controversy regarding  a lack of choices  of qualified candidates                                                               
but expressed his confidence in the vetting process.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:49:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN recalled his own prior  six years of experience as a                                                               
member of  the Board of  Governors of the Alaska  Bar Association                                                               
and that  Mr. Granger had been  a member for that  entire [period                                                               
of  service].   He  asked  Mr.  Granger's opinion  on  continuing                                                               
education requirements and any impact from those changes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRANGER allowed  that he  could  not speak  to exactly  what                                                               
changes  had  been made  and  when,  but  the association  has  a                                                               
mandatory  ethics continuing  legal education  (CLE) requirement,                                                               
and  other CLE  requirements are  voluntary.   He added  that the                                                               
voluntary  CLE  program has  been  successful  and has  become  a                                                               
revenue generator for the association.   He expressed his delight                                                               
in the  robust amount of time  that the Bar Association  at large                                                               
devotes to CLE.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:51:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  whether the  mandatory  ethics training  had                                                               
been passed during Mr. Granger's tenure on the board.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA  OBERMEYER  expressed  her pleasure  with  the  questions                                                               
posed by the committee to  the nominees and expressed her opinion                                                               
that  a  close  examination  of  the  Bar  Association  would  be                                                               
appropriate.  She stated that Alaska  is the only state that does                                                               
not have a law  school and is the only state  in which an elected                                                               
official  is not  required as  a member  of the  Bar Association.                                                               
She referred to written materials  she had submitted prior to the                                                               
committee regarding her  own litigation.  She  requested that she                                                               
be  considered  for the  public  member  position sought  by  Mr.                                                               
Grainger  and  referred  to  work  history  and  resume  she  had                                                               
previously provided to the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:55:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER  stated that  the House  Judiciary Standing                                                               
Committee  had  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointees and  recommended that the  names of Rick  Castillo and                                                               
William  Granger, appointees  to the  Board of  Governors of  the                                                               
Alaska  Bar Association,  be  forwarded to  a  Joint session  for                                                               
consideration.    She reminded  the  committee  that signing  the                                                               
reports regarding  appointments to  boards and commissions  in no                                                               
way reflects  individual members' approval or  disapproval of the                                                               
appointees, and the nominations are  merely forwarded to the full                                                               
legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:57:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:57 p.m.